schemeeditor doesn’t launch at all – windows11

[buraksimsek]

Hi all,

I successfully installed rapid scada. I can run simple projects and build tables for those. However, when I try to build a scheme, the editor does not start at all. The behavior is the same for launching from the administrators as well as manual start from the .exe file. The cursor shows it is trying to launch. Then it stops and nothing else…….

There is no error message. In the log file I see only the following entry:

2025-03-25 00:27:59 <LAPTOP-H67AIQA5><burak><ACT> Initialize common data of Scheme Editor
2025-03-25 00:27:59 <LAPTOP-H67AIQA5><burak><ACT> Load components from files
2025-03-25 00:28:00 <LAPTOP-H67AIQA5><burak><ACT> Components are loaded from the file C:\Program Files\SCADA\ScadaSchemeEditor\Web\bin\PlgSchBasicComp.dll

Appreciate your help !!!

Thanks in advance

[Mikhail]

Hello,

When the editor starts correctly, ScadaSchemeEditor.log contains

2025-03-25 12:50:42 <PC><user><ACT> Initialize common data of Scheme Editor
2025-03-25 12:50:42 <PC><user><ACT> Load components from files
2025-03-25 12:50:42 <PC><user><ACT> Components are loaded from the file C:\Program Files\SCADA\ScadaSchemeEditor\Web\bin\PlgSchBasicComp.dll
2025-03-25 12:50:43 <PC><user><ACT> WCF service is started

The editor uses WCF, so you may need to enable it as shown here.

The editor opens TCP port 10001. Using TcpView make sure that the port 10001 is not used by another application.

[buraksimsek]

Thank you Mikhail,

I checked WCF. HTTP activation as well as TCP are enabled.
I checked the TCP Port 10001 with TcpView. 10001 is not in use. 10000 and 10002 are used by rapid scada.

The log of schemeeditor still shows exactly the same content as above, and stops after PlgSchBasicComp.dll. I do not see an entry for WCF.

I have .Net Framwork 4.8.1. However in the schemeeditor.exe.log 4.7.2 is noted. <startup><supportedRuntime version=”v4.0″ sku=”.NETFramework,Version=v4.7.2″/></startup></configuration>

I dont know whether it would make a difference, but I changed it manually. Didnt help…

It really seems like a wrong or missing configuration somewhere…

Do you have any other suggestions?

[buraksimsek]

I see under the “Instance Status” it says webstation “Status not supported” Can it be relevant?

[Mikhail]

I see under the “Instance Status” it says webstation “Status not supported” Can it be relevant?

It’s not relevant. It just means that the app does not provide status.
I suggest to check events in Windows Event Viewer. If an app accidentally crashes, the OS writes some info there.

Also try to deploy a new virtual machine using Hyper-V or VMware and install the editor from scratch.

[buraksimsek]

Hi Mikhail,

indeed windows event viewer shows errors. There are 3 Errors. The log is very long unfortunately. I assume only the first one tells about the real source more. I hope it helps you to help me 😀

First one is .NET:

Log Name: Application
Source: .NET Runtime
Date: 3/26/2025 10:37:39 PM
Event ID: 1026
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: LAPTOP-H67AIQA5
Description:
Application: ScadaSchemeEditor.exe
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: System.AccessViolationException
at System.Net.UnsafeNclNativeMethods.SetFileCompletionNotificationModes(System.Runtime.InteropServices.CriticalHandle, FileCompletionNotificationModes)
at System.Net.HttpListener.CreateRequestQueueHandle()
at System.Net.HttpListener.Start()
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.SharedHttpTransportManager.OnOpen()
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.TransportManager.Open(System.ServiceModel.Channels.TransportChannelListener)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.TransportManagerContainer.Open(System.ServiceModel.Channels.SelectTransportManagersCallback)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.TransportChannelListener.OnOpen(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.HttpChannelListener`1[[System.__Canon, mscorlib, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089]].OnOpen(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Dispatcher.ChannelDispatcher.OnOpen(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.ServiceHostBase.OnOpen(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(System.TimeSpan)
at Scada.Scheme.Editor.AppData.StartWcfService(System.String ByRef)
at Scada.Scheme.Editor.AppData.StartEditor()
at Scada.Scheme.Editor.FrmMain.FrmMain_Load(System.Object, System.EventArgs)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(System.EventArgs)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(System.Windows.Forms.Message ByRef)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(System.Windows.Forms.Message ByRef)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(System.Windows.Forms.Message ByRef)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr)

Event Xml:
<Event xmlns=”http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event”&gt;
<System>
<Provider Name=”.NET Runtime” />
<EventID Qualifiers=”0″>1026</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime=”2025-03-26T14:37:39.1014871Z” />
<EventRecordID>10718</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID=”34740″ ThreadID=”0″ />
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>LAPTOP-H67AIQA5</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>Application: ScadaSchemeEditor.exe
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: System.AccessViolationException
at System.Net.UnsafeNclNativeMethods.SetFileCompletionNotificationModes(System.Runtime.InteropServices.CriticalHandle, FileCompletionNotificationModes)
at System.Net.HttpListener.CreateRequestQueueHandle()
at System.Net.HttpListener.Start()
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.SharedHttpTransportManager.OnOpen()
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.TransportManager.Open(System.ServiceModel.Channels.TransportChannelListener)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.TransportManagerContainer.Open(System.ServiceModel.Channels.SelectTransportManagersCallback)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.TransportChannelListener.OnOpen(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.HttpChannelListener`1[[System.__Canon, mscorlib, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089]].OnOpen(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Dispatcher.ChannelDispatcher.OnOpen(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.ServiceHostBase.OnOpen(System.TimeSpan)
at System.ServiceModel.Channels.CommunicationObject.Open(System.TimeSpan)
at Scada.Scheme.Editor.AppData.StartWcfService(System.String ByRef)
at Scada.Scheme.Editor.AppData.StartEditor()
at Scada.Scheme.Editor.FrmMain.FrmMain_Load(System.Object, System.EventArgs)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(System.EventArgs)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(System.Windows.Forms.Message ByRef)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(System.Windows.Forms.Message ByRef)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(System.Windows.Forms.Message ByRef)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr)

</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

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Second one is directly from schemeeditor referring to Faulting module name: ASProxy64.dll:

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 3/26/2025 10:37:39 PM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: Application Crashing Events
Level: Error
Keywords:
User: LAPTOP-H67AIQA5\burak
Computer: LAPTOP-H67AIQA5
Description:
Faulting application name: ScadaSchemeEditor.exe, version: 5.3.1.2, time stamp: 0x6274bbe1
Faulting module name: ASProxy64.dll, version: 2.3.6.3, time stamp: 0x55dda8ac
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000000000000c274
Faulting process id: 0x87B4
Faulting application start time: 0x1DB9E5C9EEB8CA9
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\SCADA\ScadaSchemeEditor\ScadaSchemeEditor.exe
Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ASProxy64.dll
Report Id: 30d1fa3c-1e0d-4091-b2d0-914bfafbd234
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns=”http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event”&gt;
<System>
<Provider Name=”Application Error” Guid=”{a0e9b465-b939-57d7-b27d-95d8e925ff57}” />
<EventID>1000</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime=”2025-03-26T14:37:39.6332350Z” />
<EventRecordID>10719</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID=”29420″ ThreadID=”20176″ />
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>LAPTOP-H67AIQA5</Computer>
<Security UserID=”S-1-5-21-914742159-529878284-3034585362-1002″ />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name=”AppName”>ScadaSchemeEditor.exe</Data>
<Data Name=”AppVersion”>5.3.1.2</Data>
<Data Name=”AppTimeStamp”>6274bbe1</Data>
<Data Name=”ModuleName”>ASProxy64.dll</Data>
<Data Name=”ModuleVersion”>2.3.6.3</Data>
<Data Name=”ModuleTimeStamp”>55dda8ac</Data>
<Data Name=”ExceptionCode”>c0000005</Data>
<Data Name=”FaultingOffset”>000000000000c274</Data>
<Data Name=”ProcessId”>0x87b4</Data>
<Data Name=”ProcessCreationTime”>0x1db9e5c9eeb8ca9</Data>
<Data Name=”AppPath”>C:\Program Files\SCADA\ScadaSchemeEditor\ScadaSchemeEditor.exe</Data>
<Data Name=”ModulePath”>C:\WINDOWS\system32\ASProxy64.dll</Data>
<Data Name=”IntegratorReportId”>30d1fa3c-1e0d-4091-b2d0-914bfafbd234</Data>
<Data Name=”PackageFullName”>
</Data>
<Data Name=”PackageRelativeAppId”>
</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

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Third one is again schemeeditor

Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 3/26/2025 10:37:45 PM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: Application Crashing Events
Level: Error
Keywords:
User: LAPTOP-H67AIQA5\burak
Computer: LAPTOP-H67AIQA5
Description:
Faulting application name: ScadaSchemeEditor.exe, version: 5.3.1.2, time stamp: 0x6274bbe1
Faulting module name: ASProxy64.dll, version: 2.3.6.3, time stamp: 0x55dda8ac
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x000000000000c274
Faulting process id: 0x87B4
Faulting application start time: 0x1DB9E5C9EEB8CA9
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\SCADA\ScadaSchemeEditor\ScadaSchemeEditor.exe
Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ASProxy64.dll
Report Id: 14c99ff2-73ac-404b-938d-2d86527d73b8
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns=”http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event”&gt;
<System>
<Provider Name=”Application Error” Guid=”{a0e9b465-b939-57d7-b27d-95d8e925ff57}” />
<EventID>1000</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime=”2025-03-26T14:37:45.6459047Z” />
<EventRecordID>10721</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID=”16280″ ThreadID=”29172″ />
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>LAPTOP-H67AIQA5</Computer>
<Security UserID=”S-1-5-21-914742159-529878284-3034585362-1002″ />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name=”AppName”>ScadaSchemeEditor.exe</Data>
<Data Name=”AppVersion”>5.3.1.2</Data>
<Data Name=”AppTimeStamp”>6274bbe1</Data>
<Data Name=”ModuleName”>ASProxy64.dll</Data>
<Data Name=”ModuleVersion”>2.3.6.3</Data>
<Data Name=”ModuleTimeStamp”>55dda8ac</Data>
<Data Name=”ExceptionCode”>c000041d</Data>
<Data Name=”FaultingOffset”>000000000000c274</Data>
<Data Name=”ProcessId”>0x87b4</Data>
<Data Name=”ProcessCreationTime”>0x1db9e5c9eeb8ca9</Data>
<Data Name=”AppPath”>C:\Program Files\SCADA\ScadaSchemeEditor\ScadaSchemeEditor.exe</Data>
<Data Name=”ModulePath”>C:\WINDOWS\system32\ASProxy64.dll</Data>
<Data Name=”IntegratorReportId”>14c99ff2-73ac-404b-938d-2d86527d73b8</Data>
<Data Name=”PackageFullName”>
</Data>
<Data Name=”PackageRelativeAppId”>
</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

[Mikhail]

Hi,

Thank you for the info.
Scada.Scheme.Editor.AppData.StartWcfService(System.String ByRef)
The above line means that the error occurred when starting a WCF service.
This discussion is related to the issue, but it does not contain a solution.
We are planning to get rid of WCF in Scheme Editor. Until then, I suggest using a virtual machine to create schemes.

[Mikhail]

Make sure that the latest updates are installed on your Windows 11.

[manjey73]

Strangely, I’m currently using Windows 11 on the same project. The scheme editor is working.
If you can tell me where to look at the settings in Windows 11 and which ones, I’ll take a look.

• This reply was modified 5 months ago by manjey73.

[buraksimsek]

I have been trying different solutions to figure out why WCF fails. USed also ChatGPT 🙂 Focused on firewall settings and other rights management solutions… All failed. Then I gave up and used Hyper-V to install rapid scada. Everything worked there. However, all of a sudden I lost connection of the virtual machine. And while I was trying to recover the network settings of the virtual machine, I accidentally solved the above issue…

I did a factory reset for all network adapters. Then tried rapid scada schemeditor without virtual machine and it works…. God knows what kind of a configuration was there avoiding the connection..

Thanks for your help!

[Mikhail]

Wow! Windows is unpredictable sometimes.

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