Rapid SCADA 6 Beta

[Mikhail]

Hello,

The beta version of Rapid SCADA 6 is available at https://disk.yandex.ru/d/LiW4yl5oc6GfCA
The link above was updated September 16, 2022.

Feedback is appreciated.

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[JW]

Installation and Basic Test:
1. Installation on both Windows 10 and Ubuntu 20.04 Tested OK.
2. A bug of WebApp not refreshing after switching between views on Firefox seems no longer there.

A few suggestion For ScadaAdmin App:
1. Make the search and replace function applicable for the enable (checkbox) fields.
2. Is it possible to copy an array / list from excel and paste it to the ScadAdmin table? at least for the number and text field, such as channel name, formula.
3. The linux pack no longer has ScadaAdmin. In v5 I can use mono to run ScadaAdmin GUI to modify settings and upload projects. Is there any features that allow user to at least upload a project from Linux desktop or command line?

some know bug /limitation on v5 I am going to test.
1. On V5 if the formula used channel exceed ~1.5k, the server will crash.
2. On V5 if the reading of 1 device exceed ~4k, communicator will not be able send to to server.

[Mikhail]

Thank you for testing.

> Make the search and replace function applicable for the enable (checkbox) fields.
That’s possible in the future. Currently, use a table filter or sorting by column. With the Space button you can change a checkbox.

> Is it possible to copy an array / list from excel and paste it to the ScadAdmin table?
Yes, use export to CSV and import from CSV.

> The linux pack no longer has ScadaAdmin.
Microsoft .NET 6 does not support WinForms for Linux, unfortunately.

> Is there any features that allow user to at least upload a project from Linux desktop or command line?
Simple way:
– Copy project files to the appropriate folders under /opt/scada
– Use a command line utility (I can share it) to convert the configuration database from XML to DAT format.

Complex way:
Create a tool for uploading a project using Agent service like the Administrator app does. It would be possible to upload projects also to PostgreSQL database. Such tool could be created with help of a sponsor.

[Mikhail]

> 1. On V5 if the formula used channel exceed ~1.5k, the server will crash.
Should work on v6, because source code of the formulas are split to multiple classes.

2. On V5 if the reading of 1 device exceed ~4k, communicator will not be able send to to server.
The limit was increased.
Refer the internal application protocol https://disk.yandex.ru/i/5ouUfspLjQ_k-A
See “Function 0x0206. Write Current Data”
The data buffer size is 1 MB. I suppose, it’s possible to send more than 50k channels, in theory.

Testing is appreciated.

[Matt3]

Hi Mikhail

Thanks for releasing the beta Version 6. It’s looking great.
With version 5, we added a lot of pages to the “C:\SCADA\ScadaWeb\custom” folder.
We used aspx webforms.
In the release doc for version 6, you mention for the “Webstation” that the “app has been completely redesigned using Razor Pages technology”.
What technology do you suggest we use to create custom pages in version 6?

Kind regards
Matt

[Mikhail]

Hi Matt,

Microsoft says that Razor Pages is the most close technology to WebForms. So I suggest Razor Pages for creating custom web interface in v6.

[Matt3]

Hi Mikhail

I’ve been trying beta 6 and so far so good.
However, I found a small issue with changing the SCH file path.
In ScadaAdmin.exe, Tools/Options/File Association/, I can not change the current file path. It is set to “C:\RapidSCADA_Beat_6\Windows\SCADA\ScadaSchemeEditor\ScadaSchemeEditor.exe”.

Thanks
Matt

[Mikhail]

Hello Matt,

Thank you for the bug report. It is fixed now, and the fix will be included in the next beta release.
Currently, you could manually edit a path in C:\Users\YOUR_USER\AppData\Local\ScadaAdmin\Config\ScadaAdminConfig.xml

[Mikhail]

To check which modules are ready for v6, use this link.

[JW]

Any plan for PlgNotification?

[Mikhail]

Definitely, PlgNotification will be ported to v6.
For now, I can’t provide particular due date.

[Mikhail]

The Rapid SCADA 6 Beta 8 update has been released. The download link is at the beginning of the topic.

What’s new:
– Fixed bugs found in various applications and modules.
– Added options for table views, which, among other things, allow to set the displayed archive for a particular view.
– Added an archive option for the standard Chart Plugin. For example, in the address bar add …&archive=Hour
– The format description is displayed on the command sending form, if the format is string.
– The logic of Rapid Gate Module developed. The user interface of the module is partially ready.

[tina_y]

Hi Mikhail

The new version is more convenient and flexible. You’ve done a great job.

A test feedback of V6 beta 8:
–Test condition ： two same devices /modbus rtu/read 560 Registers/wirte 28 Registers
–Problem: After adding channels, When I change the “Data Type” to “Integer”, the communicator loses the channel matching, the data can’t be sent to channels. but, It is normal when changed to “Double ” or “NULL”.

In addition，When I use “ export… ” to export channels to CSV files, and I have a coding problem If I use simplified Chinese in channel names.

If you need a new simplified Chinese language pack, I’d be glad to do it.

[Mikhail]

Hi,
Channel data type should match datatype of a driver tag. The Modbus driver uses the double type for all tags.
64bit integer data type may be useful for long counters, because its max value is bigger than double.

When I use “ export… ” to export channels to CSV files, and I have a coding problem If I use simplified Chinese in channel names

Please create a separate topic to discuss this issue in details and fix.

If you need a new simplified Chinese language pack, I’d be glad to do it.

That would help the project very much. Currently the phrases continue changing. After we release a stable 6th version, simplified Chinese translation would be appreciated.

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[tina_y]

> 1. On V5 if the formula used channel exceed ~1.5k, the server will crash.

Is there a solution to this problem on V5? I have to divide each channel by a variable ratio in my application, about 15 k.

In the meantime, I suggest adding a column for “ratio” in the channel in V6 (default value= 1, can set it to 0.1 or 10 …). Because multiply or divide with a ratio is very common. I think it would be more convenient than using formula.

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