Upgrade from 5.0.3.0 to 5.8.4

[peter_f]

Hello,
I want to move my old RapidScada installation to a new server, upgrading to version 5.8.4. The instructions recommend either copying the files individually or uploading the old configuration in the new installation. However, since the file structure has obviously changed (there is no Projects folder anymore, for example), this fails. When trying to start Scada, a message appears that the server is not running.
Do I have to upgrade gradually over several intermediate states?
Can I find the old program version I used so far somewhere that I can at least restore the old state on the new server?

many thanks in advance
Peter

[Mikhail]

Hello,

This manual may help.

Can I find the old program version I used so far somewhere that I can at least restore the old state on the new server?

The oldest version that can be downloaded is 5.8.4.
You could simply copy C:\SCADA folder to a new server and register services as described in manual installation article.

[Mikhail]

What application has a version 5.0.3.0?

[peter_f]

Its not so easy, because there are different versions for the different applications

webstation is 5.0.3.0

administrator is 5.0.0.2

communicator is 5.1.0.0

Does the path suggested in the link work in this constellation? I can’t find a projects folder in the linked document either. Where can I find the configuration to load into the new project?

[Mikhail]

According to the history that versions belong to Rapid SCADA earlier than 5.5.1 (March 16, 2018).

How many channels and devices in the project?

[peter_f]

Hi, obviously I failed to send the answer to the last question.
There are about 750 input chanels, no output chanels, and about 40 devices.
Is that a problem?
How do I proceed now?
Thank you for your help

Peter

[Mikhail]

Hi,

In case a project contains less than 100 channels, sometimes it’s easier to enter them from scratch. 750 channels require project conversion.
I suggest using the above manual to convert your project to v5.8.4. Later you can port the project to v6.

[peter_f]

Hello,
I have carried out the installation as suggested and imported the old project in the administrator.
All devices, communicator lines and objects have been transferred correctly, as far as I can see. The points I created, such as users, additional units and quantities, were also transferred.
When I try to log in, I get an error message: Server is unavailable.
In the instance status, I see Error for both the server and the communicator. Restarting the server does not bring any change.

Have I overlooked something?

Peter

[Mikhail]

Hello,
See ScadaServer.log to check if the Server app works correctly or not.
Also see ScadaComm.log to check Communicator status.

[Mikhail]

If the most of data are converted correctly, the current project issues should be fixed.

[peter_f]

Maybe it will be helpfull o post the logfiles (just the last entrys)

ScadaCommSvc:
2023-07-04 14:02:59 <SBRGVMAPS0098><SYSTEM><ACT> Connect to SCADA-Server “localhost”
2023-07-04 14:03:01 <SBRGVMAPS0098><SYSTEM><EXC> Error connecting to SCADA-Server: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 127.0.0.1:10000
2023-07-04 14:03:01 <SBRGVMAPS0098><SYSTEM><ACT> Disconnect from SCADA-Server
2023-07-04 14:03:01 <SBRGVMAPS0098><SYSTEM><ERR> Unable to start operation due to SCADA-Server communication error.
Delay before trying again
2023-07-04 14:03:11 <SBRGVMAPS0098><SYSTEM><ACT> Connect to SCADA-Server “localhost”

ScadaServerSvc
2023-07-03 16:16:40 <SBRGVMAPS0098><SYSTEM><ACT> ScadaServerService 5.1.4.2 is started
2023-07-03 16:16:40 <SBRGVMAPS0098><SYSTEM><EXC> Error loading module from the file C:\SCADA\ScadaServer\Mod\ModDBExport.dll: Could not load type ‘Scada.Server.Modules.ModDBExportLogic’ from assembly ‘ModDbExport, Version=5.1.0.1, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null’.
2023-07-03 16:16:40 <SBRGVMAPS0098><SYSTEM><ERR> The configuration database in DAT format directory does not exist.
The interface directory does not exist.
The archive in DAT format directory does not exist.
The archive copy in DAT format directory does not exist.
2023-07-03 16:16:40 <SBRGVMAPS0098><SYSTEM><ERR> Normal program execution is impossible

SCADA-Server
————
Started : 03/07/2023 16:16:40
Execution time : 00:00:00
State : error
Version : 5.1.4.2

Connected Clients
—————–
No

Before I copied the old Data to the new installation, I could start the server and there was the sample project. Now I just can´t log in.

[Mikhail]

ModDBExport.dll was renamed to ModDbExport.dll
Could you make a screenshot of the Server directories specified in the project?

[peter_f]

In this directory
C:\SCADA\ScadaServer\Mod
are the following files:

ModActiveDirectory.dll 11/15/2021
ModDbExport.dll 11/15/2021
MySql.Data.dll 04/26/2018
Npgsql.dll 07/19/2020
System.Buffers.dll 07/19/2020
System.Memory.dll 04/17/2019
System.Numerics.Vectors.dll 07/19/2017
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.Unsafe.dll 09/18/2018
System.Threading.Tasks.Extensions.dll 11/29/2018
System.ValueTuple.dll 05/15/2018

I hope, this is the information you need.
I was unable to make a screenshot. That means, it ist possible to make a screenshot, but i cant´t place it in the trxtfield here.

[Mikhail]

ModDBExport.dll and ModDbExport.dll use different symbol casing.

That means, it ist possible to make a screenshot, but i cant´t place it in the trxtfield here.

Use an external image hosting like https://imgbb.com/ or Google Drive.

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