John_Devan_2929

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  • in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17753
    John_Devan_2929
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    Hello Mikhail,

    I have another question regarding licensing and channels in Rapid SCADA.

    I noticed that on the page
    https://rapidscada.org/download-all-files/purchase-module/

    there is an option to purchase a Rapid SCADA Standard license that already includes additional modules, and depending on the price, a larger number of channels is included.

    My question is about what exactly these channels represent.

    Are these channels the same as the cnlNum channels used in Rapid SCADA, meaning the individual variables or data points that we read from devices (for example Modbus registers such as voltage, current, temperature, etc.)?

    Or do these channels refer to a different type of resource?

    For example:

    > Do interface elements or mimic components also consume channels?

    > Or are channels strictly related to the data variables collected from devices?

    Also, how many channels are included by default in the standard Rapid SCADA installation?

    For instance, if I keep adding more variables from inverters (like additional Modbus registers), would I need to purchase more channels as the number of variables increases?

    I just want to make sure I understand correctly how channel licensing works before expanding my project.

    Thank you very much for your help.

    in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17711
    John_Devan_2929
    Participant

    Hello!

    I managed to solve the problem. I was trying to follow your suggestion by using two workstations. However, I spent a few days trying to understand why the compcode.txt file was not being generated on the Windows machine so I could use it as the editor workstation.

    Finally, I was able to resolve the issue, and the plugin was successfully deployed.

    Thank you very much for your time and for helping me here on the forum. I intend to purchase this plugin and keep it licensed on the Linux server. As you mentioned that in the near future editing will no longer require signature keys, I will continue using trial keys for editing, and the only permanent licensed key will remain on the server.

    Thanks again!

    in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17645
    John_Devan_2929
    Participant

    > Do you use the Linux machine without desktop interface?
    – No, I use Ubuntu with a graphical interface (Xubuntu).

    > Do you prefer editing mimics on Linux to avoid extra licensing?
    – The main idea from my manager is to use Windows only to create local projects and use Linux (our server) strictly as the runtime to collect data from those projects and display them in WebStation. Since the entire runtime environment is on Linux, I assumed that using only one license on the Linux server would be sufficient.

    The engineer creates the project on Windows → performs deploy → edits mimics directly on the Linux server via the web interface (accessing via IP:port or link) → and the mimic loads the plugin components properly.

    However, when we tested editing and saving a mimic via the Linux web interface, the mimic did not load automatically in the runtime WebStation.

    Initially, the mimic was not even found because the .rsproj file apparently was not deployed to the server and remained only on Windows. To work around this, I manually copied the entire project folder to the server using AnyDesk, and then the server was able to find the .mim file and open it in MimicEditor.

    When MimicEditor opened (showing the extra plugin components under the trial key), we were able to use the plugin and save the mimic. However, it still did not update in WebStation automatically.

    That is when I considered manually copying from the editor path to the runtime path: SRC=”/opt/scada/Projects/UFVs/Views/” DST=”/opt/scada/Views/”

    But this feels impractical and possibly incorrect, which is why I am clarifying this before proceeding further.

    The editor path (Projects) does not seem to update automatically with deploy operations, and I would need to use Syncthing so that every time the Administrator creates a new folder or view, it gets synchronized to the server. Then, after editing, I would run the deploy.sh script to copy to the runtime folder.

    Since this approach feels unnecessarily complex, I am wondering if something is wrong in my workflow.

    I downloaded and installed the full latest version of RapidSCADA on the Linux server. From the Windows package, I only sent the ScadaAdmin folder to the engineer, since on Windows he only needs Administrator to deploy to the server, and the Linux server handles the full runtime.

    So I would like to clarify:

    1. In this specific situation (Windows: Administrator only / Linux: full native RapidSCADA server), is this the correct architectural approach?

    2. Should the Deploy operation automatically update the editor path on the server? In that case, Syncthing would not be necessary.

    3. If I use MimicEditor on the Linux server via the web interface and save the .mim file, should the plugin components immediately appear in WebStation? In my case, they only appear if I manually copy from: /opt/scada/Projects/UFVs/Views/ to:/opt/scada/Views/.

    in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17640
    John_Devan_2929
    Participant

    When I tried copying from the editor path to the runtime path, it worked and the plugins appeared correctly with the trial version.

    I believe that using a script like ‘deploy.sh’ that executes:
    set -euo pipefail

    SRC=”/opt/scada/Projects/UFVs/Views/”
    DST=”/opt/scada/Views/”

    rsync -av “$SRC” “$DST”

    systemctl restart scadaweb6

    echo “Deploy views OK: $SRC -> $DST”

    should work

    in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17639
    John_Devan_2929
    Participant

    We would edit the mimics directly on the Linux server using the web interface (via URL), instead of editing them on a workstation. Then, after making changes, we would use a small deploy script to copy the updated mimic files to the runtime path and perform a Web6 reload so the changes are immediately reflected in the runtime.

    This way, the plugin would only need to be licensed on the server, since all editing would also be done there.

    Is this the right approach?

    in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17637
    John_Devan_2929
    Participant

    Before moving forward with purchasing the PlgMimExtraComp plugin, I would like to clarify a few points about the licensing process to make sure I fully understand how it works.

    As I understand it, the workflow would be:

    Complete the payment → receive the license key by email → enter the key in the Engineer’s Administrator (Plugins → PlgMimExtraComp → Register) → upload the project to the server → and then the plugin runs with the license applied.

    Could you please confirm the following:

    1. Is this the correct procedure for activating the license?

    2. Is the license perpetual and tied to the Computer Code of the machine where the plugin runs (in my case, the Linux server)? If I change the server and the Computer Code changes, would a new license be required?

    3. Is registering the key in the Administrator sufficient, or is there any additional step required directly on the server?

    Now i’m running Native RapidSCADA on linux, instead running in docker

    in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17633
    John_Devan_2929
    Participant

    Today, I tried manually copying the file within “Projects” to the runtime path. I noticed the timestamp changed, and when I restarted SCADA Web 6, the file.mim correctly updated in relation to MimicEditor.

    So… Every time I edit the view, do I need to copy and restart web6?

    I also have doubts about whether the path to the editor will be updated correctly when the deployment is done.

    Here is the terminal input/output:
    evo@evoserver:~/backups_rapidscada_NATIVE$ ls -lh “/opt/scada/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim”
    -rw-r–r– 1 root root 2,8K fev 11 10:17 ‘/opt/scada/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim’
    evo@evoserver:~/backups_rapidscada_NATIVE$ find /opt/scada -name “teste.mim” -o -name “NewFile.mim”
    /opt/scada/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim
    /opt/scada/Projects/UFVs/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim
    evo@evoserver:~/backups_rapidscada_NATIVE$ sudo find /opt/scada -name “teste.mim” -printf “%TY-%Tm-%Td %TH:%TM %p\n”
    2026-02-11 10:17 /opt/scada/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim
    2026-02-12 07:20 /opt/scada/Projects/UFVs/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim
    evo@evoserver:~/backups_rapidscada_NATIVE$ sudo cp -f “/opt/scada/Projects/UFVs/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim” \
    “/opt/scada/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim”
    evo@evoserver:~/backups_rapidscada_NATIVE$ sudo ls -lh “/opt/scada/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim”
    -rw-r–r– 1 root root 11K fev 12 07:49 ‘/opt/scada/Views/UFV Americano/teste.mim’
    evo@evoserver:~/backups_rapidscada_NATIVE$ sudo systemctl restart scadaweb6

    After that, the file.mim updated and appeared correctly in the webstation.

    in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17630
    John_Devan_2929
    Participant

    I also tried:

    – Deploying the project again from Administrator
    – Performing Download Configuration
    – Then performing Upload Configuration

    But the issue remains the same.

    in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17629
    John_Devan_2929
    Participant

    I installed the PlgMimExtraComp.dll both:

    On the Windows machine (Administrator)

    On the Linux server (including wwwroot, lang, etc.)

    I successfully obtained the trial key and activated it.
    The MimicEditor loads correctly on Linux, and the extra components appear in the editor.

    However, when I save the mimic file, it does not appear correctly on the WebStation with the plugin graphics. Even after restarting the server and all daemons, the file.mim appears blank in the WebStation.

    Below is the ScadaWeb log:

    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Webstation 6.2.3.0 started
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Storage FileStorage 6.4.0.0 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/FileStorage.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgChart 6.1.0.1 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgChart.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgMain 6.1.2.0 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgMain.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgMimic 6.0.0.1 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgMimic.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgMimicEditor 6.0.0.2 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgMimicEditor.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgMimBasicComp 6.0.0.1 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgMimBasicComp.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgScheme 6.1.1.0 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgScheme.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgSchBasicComp 6.1.0.0 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgSchBasicComp.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgStore 6.1.0.1 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgStore.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgWebPage 6.1.1.0 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgWebPage.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgMimExtraComp 6.0.0.0 loaded from file /opt/scada/ScadaWeb/PlgMimExtraComp.dll
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgMimic: Add components from the PlgMimBasicComp plugin
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Check PlgMimExtraComp registration: Registration key is valid. Expiration date is 12/02/2026.
    Computer code: =XXXXXX=
    Registration key: XXXXXX
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgMimic: Add components from the PlgMimExtraComp plugin
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgScheme: Retrieve scheme components from the installed plugins
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Plugin PlgScheme: Added components from the PlgSchBasicComp plugin
    2026-02-11 10:50:46 [evoserver][root][ACT] Receive the configuration database
    Connection refused [::ffff:127.0.0.1]:10000
    2026-02-11 10:50:56 [evoserver][root][ACT] Receive the configuration database
    2026-02-11 10:50:57 [evoserver][root][ACT] The configuration database has been received successfully
    2026-02-11 10:50:57 [evoserver][root][INF] The application is ready for operating

    The plugin is loaded and the registration key is valid, but the mimic does not render in WebStation.

    in reply to: I can’t open or Edit Mimic Files. #17627
    John_Devan_2929
    Participant

    Thank you for helping me solve this issue.

    I believe the problem I was having earlier was caused by the missing .rsproj file. When I copy this file over to my Linux VM, both Mimic and MimicEditor load correctly.

    I assume that for every project I create and deploy to a Linux server, the .rsproj file will be required if I want to use MimicEditor and/or its plugins.

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